missing emails

From: Nebe-Von-Caron, G <g.nebe-von-caron@spdspark.com>
Date: Wed Mar 26 2008 - 08:34:52 EDT
Hi everyone

I recently noticed the list contained answers to subjects of which I did
not have the original message. I have plenty of FL-6, 9 and bay
biosciences... but for example not did not receive the original post
from Helen about the FACSAria shifting signals. The other recent message
I did not get was

From: Rudjer Novak [mailto:rnovak@pharma.hr]
Sent: Fri 3/21/2008 4:03 AM
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: phagocytosis
dear flowers,

They are not blocked by the spam filter and also not sorted out by
internal filtering. 

Now it is obvious if you miss the original post as you have only the
RE:~ messages, but I do not know how many answers might be missing as
well.

Anybody else noticed something similar?

Gerhard Nebe-von-Caron 
Research Scientist and Biomedical Engineer 
SPD-Spark
Swiss Precision Diagnostics 
Priory Business Park 
Bedford, MK44 3UP, UK 
Tel +44(0)1234-835474 
Fax +44(0)1234-835002 
mailto:g.nebe-von-caron@spdspark.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: Helen Ferry [mailto:helen.ferry@imm.ox.ac.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:37 AM
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: FACSAria shifting signals

Dear All

Sorry, this is a long one.......

I am hoping that there is someone out there who has experienced the same
problem we are experiencing with our SORP FACSAria, and more importantly
can offer a suggestion for how to solve it.

For months now, we have seen signals increasing in the PE-Cy5,
PerCP-Cy5.5 or PE-TxR channels; all are off a 150mW green laser. To
describe it more precisely, the negative/low cells become positive
whereas we detect little/no increase in the positive population. The
signals return to normal when the sample is repeatedly unloaded, then
run again. 

In most instances, although not all, we have seen the signals shift
after switching from bulk to single cell sorting into plates. (We use
488 alignflow beads from Invitrogen to confirm the single-sorting is
working correctly i.e. one bead/well.) We have also seen the problem
come back after the single-cell depositor was switched off when we
swapped back to bulk sorting. We have run the same samples on our LSRII
but we have never observed the same effect.

We had frequent discussions with BD, who believed that the problem was
due to 7-AAD saturating the flow cell then staining all the cells
non-specifically; even though it is not possible to replicate the effect
by overloading the system with 7-AAD. We agreed to stop using 7-AAD and
swapped to DAPI, however the problem persisted. 

After transposing DAQ boards and PMTS etc, BD decided to exchange the
instruments which we all hoped would be an end to the matter. However
last week during a single-cell sort we observed the negative/low cells
in PerCP-Cy5.5 and PE-TxR channels increase just as before. 7-AAD has
never been used with this instrument and we are still using DAPI.

BD are now convinced that it is a user/application error, but are still
unable to offer an explanation as to what could cause such a phenomenon.
We concede that the problem may indeed be related to the application,
possibly in combination with the Aria, however we would prefer to prove
this conclusively so that we can eliminate the cause.

BD suggest that we now stop using viability dyes completely. However as
we are trying to sort rare populations we would prefer not to do this,
as it is well-documented that Abs bind non-specifically to non-viable
cells, significantly increasing the background.

We are now at our wits-end as it is really affecting our ability to
perform sorts and therefore downstream experiments, not to mention the
wasted time and money when the sorts fail.

Has anybody out there seen the same thing or offer a suggestion of what
we could try to remedy this? Any help would be really appreciated.


Best wishes
Helen

Helen Ferry, D.Phil
FACS Manager
Haemopoietic Stem Cell Laboratory
Weatherall Institute for Molecular Medicine
John Radcliffe Hospital
University of Oxford
Headington
Oxford 
OX3 9DS 
United Kingdom 

+44 1865 222340



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