RE: Bay bioscience opens US office and introduces its JSAN cell sorting and analysis system there

No this is not acceptable!  I'm sorry, I just don't get it!  I agree 
100% with Roland.

I can't understand your position at all?   WHO pays the majority of 
the expenses for meetings?  Vendors! Without them your cost to attend 
ISAC would probably triple or quadruple!!   Who allows you to have 
very cheap or FREE local users' group meetings? Vendors!  Who solves 
issues with vendor services??  VENDORS!  Why on earth would you 
exclude vendors from the discussion???

And actually SOME people welcome messages from vendors... Vendors can 
solve a lot of your problems!  The Boston Area high speed sorter 
list, for example, welcomes vendors responses and they get 
results.  The vendors HEAR their requests and respond!	I've learned 
a LOT from vendors!  Without messages from Vendors, how do you find 
out about new products and services?  How often would you go to the 
ISAC website to look for a new product you don't even know 
exists?  Or how do you know there is some training opportunity 
happening in your area?  OR how do Vendors know what you need and how 
do you get your service / technical questions heard by all vendors?

Shutting them out isn't the answer to your mail problems!  Roland's 
answer was eloquent!  And, although we've discussed this often, 
nothing has ever evolved that is a better suggestion!  If you don't 
like messages from vendors, just filter them out, and having 
[Company:]  in the subject time is a perfect way to do that!

I'm sorry, I just don't get it!!   Why would you shoot yourself in 
the foot?  Vendors - you can put my email address on your mailing 
list!!	Just put [Company:] in the subject line!  I'll filter them 
and decide what I want to read or not read later!  Just like I filter 
this list!
Sue


At 01:37 PM 3/18/2008, you wrote:

>I would suggest extending this to include use of e-mail addresses 
>from the mailing list for commercial solicitation.  Can we agree 
>this is unacceptable ?
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joanne  Lannigan 
>[<mailto:jl7fj@cms.mail.virginia.edu>mailto:jl7fj@cms.mail.virginia.edu]
>Sent: Sun 3/16/2008 11:56 AM
>To: cyto-inbox Subject: Re: Bay bioscience opens US office and 
>introduces its JSAN cell sorting and analysis system there
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>Please refrain from use of this list for commercial purposes. The ISAC
>website has a place where you can post news releases about such events or
>information. Thanks-
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>On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:17:03 -0500
>   "Jeffrey Harvey" <jsharvey01@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear all,
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> > Bay bioscience is a Japanese company, based in Kobe.  The company designs,
> > develops and manufactures high performance cell sorting and analysis
> >systems
> > and also develops unique reagent products.	The company made the decision
> > earlier this year to establish a direct office in the United States and
> > to introduce its instrument systems here.  Bay bioscience currently offers
> > the JSAN system, which combines high performance cell sorting and analysis
> > capabilities in a compact and affordable design.  The company office is in
> > the San Francisco area and the company has demo sites on both the East
> >Coast
> > and West Coast.  Please visit the company website (www.baybio.co.jp) to
> > learn more about the company and its products.	  I will be 
> overseeing the US
> > operation and also the distribution of the products in Europe  The company
> > will be an exhibitor at both the Northwest Regional Cytometry Meeting
> >(March
> > 13-15, in Portland, OR) and at the ISAC Congress in Budapest (May 17-21).
> > Please visit us at either of those meetings, if you wish to discuss any
> > aspect of the company's products.  In the interim, please feel free to
> > contact me directly, at this email address.  I'll look forward to hearing
> > from you.
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> > Best Regards,
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> > Jeff Harvey
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