Re: Threshold discussion

From: Joanne Lannigan <jl7fj@cms.mail.virginia.edu>
Date: Sun Mar 16 2008 - 11:51:35 EDT
Tim:
The problem with putting the threshold too high is that the event is not 
digitized and therefore not classified and as a result it  is randomly 
sorted with your cells. You will always get some debris appearing in your 
post-sort plots, most probably due to debris that was stuck to your cells 
when they were sorted. If you want to keep your investigators happy with not 
seeing debris in their post sort samples turn up the threshold after the 
sort. I have seen a much greater amount of debris in the post sort samples 
when I keep the threshold high during sorting for the reasons described 
below. There is a discussion of this in the sorting chapter in Current 
Protocols in Cytometry.
Best Regards-Joanne

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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:41:12 -0400
  "Bushnell, Timothy" <Timothy_Bushnell@URMC.Rochester.edu> wrote:
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> I was hoping to start a discussion on the use of Threshold in sorting.  
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>For example, on our FACSAria, I like to threshold at 20,000, while the
> default is 5,000.   When I forgot to turn the threshold up, I know that
> my actual 'cell' rate is much slower because of the cellular debris,
> noise and such at the low end of the plots.  Most of this doesn't affect
> downstream applications, to the best of my knowledge, but when my
> post-sorts show 10% in this debris range, I have some investigators get
> concerned over the quality of their sort.  
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> Of course, run the sample with the higher threshold, and the problem
> goes away, and investigators are happy.  Thus, running at the higher
> value is better for the 'look' of the plots and sorts ... and yet what
> does that 'debris' really mean in the end of the day.  
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> So I'm curious as to how other groups treat thresholding of the sort
> data, and if there are any reasons for me to go one way or the other?
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> Thanks
> 
> Tim 
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> Timothy Bushnell, Ph.D.
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