To all, A short fixation on ice with freshly prepared buffered formalin or paraformaldehyde alone does not render cells completely permeable to propidium or to-pro-3. You will still be able to dicriminate between cells that were viable or dead before fixation. However, numbers of dead cells will be increased. We label with 1 mM PI or 0.2 mM TO-PRO-3 after fixation. Willem Corver -----Original Message----- From: Howard Shapiro [mailto:hms@shapirolab.com] Sent: Tue 26-2-2008 3:30 To: cyto-inbox Subject: Re: TO-PRO 3 iodide Holly Troche wrote- > > I am labeling MDCK cells with TO-PRO 3 iodide to measure their viability > in a death assay. I am currently using 2 ng/mL and staining the cells > for 5 minutes after which I am washing the dye out (2 wash cycles) with > a salt buffer. My control cells (presumably alive viable cells) are all > staining positive for TO-PRO 3. I previously titrated this dye and did > not find see this phenomenon. Invitrogen suggests that it maybe because > I am fixing the cells with 2% paraformaldehyde and this dye is best used > to dye fixed and permeabilized cells. Any thoughts? I am considering > shortening the incubation time period to 1 minute and decreasing the > concentration further. I can't even remember how many times I've addressed this issue, but here we go again. TO-PRO-3 and other dyes (e.g., propidium) that have double positive charges, one of which is a quaternary ammonium on the propyl side chain of the ring nitrogen, do not, as a general rule, enter cells with intact membranes, but do get into cells with damaged membranes, and therefore identify "nonviable" cells. Although, for some purposes (e.g., staining intracellular antigens with fluorescent antibodies or other large ligands), fixation with formaldehyde or paraformaldehyde does not render cells sufficiently permeable for staining, such fixation will, in general, modify the membrane sufficiently for it to let TO-PRO-3 or propidium in. TO-PRO-3, in particular, may also get into unfixed cells in early stages of apoptosis. If you are fixing cells with paraformaldehyde after exposure to TO-PRO-3 and before they are run on the cytometer, there is nothing keeping the TO-PRO-3 from wandering out of the cells it had initially gotten into and diluting itself throughout the solution, at which point it will get into your formerly viable fixed cells. If you are looking for a dye that will demonstrate nonviable cells but not redistribute after fixation, your best bet is to use something that will bind covalently to the nonviable cells. You might also consider TOTO-3, essentially a dimer of TO-PRO-3; this binds bivalently (although not covalently) to nucleic acids and therefore has much higher affinity for them than does the monomeric TO-PRO-3. Dimeric dyes such as TOTO-3 have been reported to stay on oligonucleotides once bound to them, even when the labeled oligos are put on gels with other nucleic acid; the TOTO dye might thus be expected to stay on the cells to which it first gained entry even after a wash step and fixation. TOTO-3 costs more than TO-PRO-3, but it does have the same spectral characteristics. -HowardReceived on Thu Feb 28 12:18:00 2008
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