Simon, Along with several collaborators we are currently working on developing specifications that will hopefully aid the analysis of data across different software such as you are describing. Our goal is to facilitate the interchange of flow cytometric analyses between software packages, investigators and laboratories, including data exchange standards for analysis (especially gating) and experimental meta data. However that doesn't help you today. What should help you is that one of the co-investigators on our project is Robert Gentleman, a co-developer of R, who is leading the work on rflowcyt. While but we are also working on example implementations in Java (with help from Perry Haaland's group at BD and Adam Treister's group TreeStar), the R package is the most developed at the moment on the analysis side. Based on Robert's work (and Tony Rossini before him) you don't need to convert your data to text to get it into R, rflowcyt reads FCS files directly into R data objects. Robert released an update to rflowcyt a couple of weeks ago that you can access as part of the BioConductor package (http://www.bioconductor.org/). This release fixes some issues and adds further functionality. There is ample documentation for R that you should look at first (http://cran.r-project.org/manuals.html, http://cran.r-project.org/other-docs.html) along with most importantly the 61-page manual on rflowcyt itself (http://www.bioconductor.org/docs/vignettes.html) which nicely explains how to do this. After you have looked at all that documentation you could also get in touch with Nolwenn LeMeur (nlemeur@fhcrc.org), who has done much of the recent work on rflowcyt, as she is also in Seattle. Cheers, Ryan Ryan Brinkman, PhD Senior Scientist, Terry Fox Laboratory BC Cancer Research Centre & Assistant Professor, Medical Genetics, UBC 675 West 10th Avenue Vancouver, BC V5Z 1L3 Tel: (604) 675-8132 http://www.bccrc.ca/tfl -----Original Message----- From: Mr Simon Corrie [mailto:s369338@student.uq.edu.au] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:18 AM To: cyto-inbox Subject: FCS files and software compatability Hi folks Im doing a short research project in Seattle and as such will have data from three different machines (Moflo, LSR2, Beckman MPLFC500) and three different software (mainly analysis) packages (FACSDiva, Summit, CPX). I am finding it difficult to analyse my data across softwares - generally the problem seems to relate to the high resolution of the FACSDiva package, such that opening data in summit or CPX gives me data in the very low quadrant (log) areas. To solve the problem I would like to find a convenient method to convert my FCS files from various sources into .txt files so that I can use Matlab or R to analyse the data. So finally my questions are: 1) Can someone suggest a program for the batchwise conversion of FCS to text? (I have tried ldata, but the FCS2.0 and 3.0 files do not convert) 2) Can someone give me a reference to help me learn how to set up my statistical analysis in R? ie maybe the most recent guide to rflowcyt if thats what people are using or an easier method? (I can code in matlab.....R frankly looks scary with a lack of reference material..) Any ideas would be much appreciated Regards Simon Corrie PhD Student Nanotechnology and Biomaterials Centre University of Queensland St Lucia 4072 QLD AustraliaReceived on Tue Nov 1 15:58:00 2005
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