Re: PFA fixation and dead cells

From: bunny <bunny@cotleur.com>
Date: Tue Oct 25 2005 - 20:22:25 EST
Andy-
I've had no problems with up to 3 days (for the blue kit, #4). I've 
only used the orange kit up to 24hr.
I typically finish staining after 5, then fix  (0.5% EM grade 
formaldehyde) & wash off the fix the next a.m., {resuspend in PBS/0.5% 
BSA/0.02%azide} Then I run anywhere from that day (24hr) to 3 days. (I 
have not actually tested it longer than 3 days, that's just my time 
frame for getting my samples run).
I have used Live/dead for intracell, but those are generally run within 
24hr ; so I have no idea how those samples hold up under storage.
bunny





On Oct 25, 2005, at 5:17 AM, A Herman, Cellular & Molecular Medicine 
wrote:

> Dear Bunny,
>   How long do you leave the fixed cells with the Live/Dead stain 
> before you analyse them on a cytometer?
>
> Molecular Probes tech support said "ideally you would run them 
> immediately but should be fine the next day when kept at 4C, 
> degradation would most likely occur after a couple of days".	Has that 
> been your experience?
>
> Also, have you used these dyes with cells that are then permeabilised 
> for intracellular staining?
>
> Many thanks,
> Andy
>
> --On Monday, October 24, 2005 2:33 -0400 bunny <bunny@cotleur.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Paolo-
>> I've been using Molecular Probes Live/dead kits for about 2yrs now 
>> with
>> great success.   Although I use #4 (runs off the UV) I've also tried 
>> #2
>>	which works well off 488nm. You incubate the cells for 30min, then 
>> are
>> able to fix to analyze  later.
>>
>> Good Luck!
>> bunny
>>
>>
>> Bunny Cotleur, M.S.
>> Sr Research Technologist, Dept of Neurosciences
>> Scientific Consultant, Flow Cytometry Core
>> Cleveland Clinic Foundation
>> Lerner Research Institute, NC30
>> 9500 Euclid Avenue
>> Cleveland, OH 44195
>> Lab: (216)444-1164
>> *********************************************
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>>
>> On Oct 21, 2005, at 8:41 AM, paolo wrote:
>>
>>  Dear Fellow Flowers,
>>
>>  I work with HIV infected cultures and I need to determine apoptotic 
>> vs
>> live vs dead cells. I use an Coulter XL with a single laser (488nm) 
>> and I
>> have to fix cells with 1% PFA as they are loaded with HIV. If I use 
>> PI or
>> 7AAD all cells will turn dead after fixation. Can anyone suggest
>> alternatives to these dyes? I already tried EMA, but perhaps there
>> something else out there that does not require the extra step with a
>> light source...
>>
>>  Thanks in advance for all your help.
>> --
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>
>
> ----------------------
> Andrew Herman, Ph.D.
> University of Bristol
> Department of Cellular & Molecular Medicine
> Flow Cytometry Facility
> School of Medical Sciences
> University Walk
> Bristol BS8 1TD
> UK
>
>
> A.Herman@bristol.ac.uk
>
Received on Wed Oct 26 15:58:00 2005

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