too many eggs in one basket, was RE: hard drive for data storage.

From: maciej simm (simm@cd4cd8.com)
Date: Tue Dec 23 2003 - 14:51:29 EST


Dear Flowers, 

First a disclaimer -
The opinions expressed in this email are my own and do not represent
those of Tree Star Inc.

On with the storage rant:

The large harddrives are convenient for centralized location of files
but should not be used as EXCLUSIVE backup devices. If a disk drive with
no redundancy protection fails you lose all the data on the disk. The
chances of that on a brand new drive are very minimal - but I personally
would not want to take that risk. 

The only solution that involves hard drives that would be 'safe' is a
RAID setup with a drive dedicated to parity information. Quoting
Microsoft, 

"A RAID-5 volume is a fault-tolerant volume with data and parity striped
intermittently across three or more physical disks. If a portion of a
physical disk fails, you can recreate the data that was on the failed
portion from the remaining data and parity. RAID-5 volumes are a good
solution for data redundancy in a computer environment in which most
activity consists of reading data."


price comparison: presented as MB per US Dollar

CDR 700MB: (assuming $20 for 50 TDK brand CDR's)
614MB/$ (triplicate protection)
or
1842MB/$ (no fail safe)

DVDR 4.3 GB (assuming $30 for 15 TDK brand DVDR's)
734MB/$ (triplicate protection)
or
2202MB/$ (no fail safe) 

SATA drive, internal, 250GB (assuming ~240GB after format):
(240GB*1024MB/GB)/($225) = 1092MB/$ 
no fail safe

EIDE drive, internal, 250GB (same as above):
(240GB*1024MB/GB)/($171) = 1437MB/$
no fail safe




Maciej Simm



-----Original Message-----
From: Fisher, Myrna L [mailto:Myrna.Fisher@med.va.gov] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:46 AM
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: RE: hard drive for data storage.

Happy Holidays to you, too.

I have an external hard drive from MicroNet (www.micronet.com).  This
was
recommended by the Mac Store.
I have not tried to store directly from the software program, but I have
not
had any problems with data storage of FCS files (transferring all files
from
hard drive to external hard drive)or any graphics files from other
programs.


Hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: janet dow [mailto:jldow@unity.ncsu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:20 PM
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: hard drive for data storage.


Happy holiday to all flowers:

I recently purchase a extra hardrive(250 GB) to attach to my 
mac(FACSCalibur) as a way to storage all future data in a central 
location.  I have unfortunatly discovered that the kind I 
purchased(Iomega  HDD 250 GB firewire desktop harddrive) does not 
like to store data directly from the machine and freezes after about 
10 data files.	I then have to shut everything down and start 
everything all over again.

I will use the drive for backup storage but would like to purchase 
one I can store data directly onto.  Iomega is trying to help but 
doesn't really understand the nature of our data.

I was hoping someone else might have tried this and found one that
works.

thanks in advance for all your help-as usual

Janet Dow
-- 
Janet Dow
Research Technician and Manager
Flow Cytometry Facility
North Carolina State College of Veterinary Medicine
Room C-314
Raleigh, NC 27606
(919)513-6364


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